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Some Viagra? Apparantley, not only do I need penis enlargment, not only do I need a diploma in a matter of days, or a mortgage to replace one I haven't got, or Cheap Rolex's BUT I ALSO HAVE ERECTION PROBLEMS?! Gosh this "Taylor Cook" ( jean.lacoursiere@verkaufsladen.com) really does know me well! Well anyway, he/she/bot has offered me a fantastic deal on Viagra (aswell as a new mortgage, a real rolex, and penis enlargment (they really are the business minded entrapneur the world is looking for!)). The interesting thing is, they have offered me Viagra Soft? Does that induce the oppoisite affect of viagra? Leave me softer than before with me apparantley small penis, bad pension and cheap looking watch that needs replacing? HMMMMMMM...
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lol the offers I've been getting lately have been interestingly phrased... "Take the blue pill... and I'll show you how deep the rabbit hole goes"... but Viagra Soft is something I don't think I've been offered yet! You do seem to be forgetting all the cheap software offers, and I'm surprised that that guy hasn't got his fingers in the search-link farm business as well ("I was browsing the web and found your amazing website 'Swoj.com 404 Page Not Found' at the address ' http://www.swoj.com/nothinghere.htm' and think that we could both benefit greatly from swapping web links..")
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Oh yes, how can I forget my good friend Henry Sanchez offering OEM software!
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Rank: I'm a girl so you all stop thinking i'm a guy
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hmmm i get those too. obviously i don't NEED them, but yeah. eventually you just block them from your address.
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blocking doesn't really work for me :( I seem to get the same emails from various different addresses.
Having Spam Assassin checking with a blacklisted URL list certainly helps matters, my swoj.com mail receives very little spam, though it's other mail accounts that don't have this kind of protection that get hit with a lot of it
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Rank: Martian Estate Agent
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I get about 5 of these a day to my Rogem.Net account, 1-2 on my personal and pushing it on 2000 a month on my gmail. So far i manly get people wanted my details...though some people seem to want to marry me :P
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Rank: I'm a girl so you all stop thinking i'm a guy
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uummm i've never gotten that. how weird! how do people even get your eail address?
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Rank: Martian Estate Agent
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Well, it's in your profile. People havw Bot's the search the web looking for e-mail addresses. These are then sold to assholes (who pay like $1 an e-mail).
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oh alright. i never did know how they got mine. but you guys seem to have that problem a lot more than i do. i get those things maybe one a week but you guys seem to get them a million times a day. sorry.
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quote:
Originally posted by rogeman
Well, it's in your profile.
People havw Bot's the search the web looking for e-mail addresses. These are then sold to assholes (who pay like $1 an e-mail).
Its $130 for 3,000,000 emails last time I looked. 
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Rank: I'm a girl so you all stop thinking i'm a guy
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but how much money do they honestly make with those? everyone i know deletes them without even bothering to read the content. i can't imagine it would be worth it...though i suppose some people might if they have some sort of compulsive buying thing which my grandmother seems to have.
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spamming is cheap, so you don't need many sales to break even. If a spammer is selling viagra at $20 (probably per pill, so a buyer would likely buy a few at a time)
not sure if BB is giving the price for emailing, or the price for getting email addresses. Even if not the price for sending emails, it's not far off, so you can see how few sales are required to break even. so out of 3,000,000 people, do you think there might be 10 or so that might try it?
Also, spammers are smart, email addresses can be harvested from emails, websites and probably anywhere that you enter information. In the same way search engines use 'spiders' to scan and index websites, spammers use the same method to scan sites for email addresses.
And think of all the stupid junk email that goes around with 'forward this to everyone in your addressbook for good luck'... how many email addresses do you think are listed on one of those emails? Sooner of later it will find its way back to a spammers collection mailbox.
Most forums these days, including this one hide email addresses from the site:
- to email another member, you have to be a member yourself and you don't get the other email address directly, only of the person replies to the email the forum sends
- the MSN address you enter requires javascript to go to a window with the MSN address. technically it would be possible for a bot to get this address, but it would have to very smart to use that to get the page with the MSN address. I don't think any are that smart!
And you have to be logged in to see a users profile.
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I get lots of bots signing up to my forums right now...they are very anoying.
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Rank: I'm a girl so you all stop thinking i'm a guy
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so how do you know if its a bot signing up? this easy access to personal information is kind of frightening.
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Bots are quite easy to spot, usally there account are not acviated and/or make random posts everwhere. Right now i get them signing up and putting there url everywhere, as soon as i banned the IP's they tend to **** off. Yeah it is, most bots are dumb****s though and only see text and not much more. Google's Bot (Googlebot) can be used to find e-mails.
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Rank: I'm a girl so you all stop thinking i'm a guy
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so you think some of the random people signing up to swoj could be bots too? cuz they freakin never post. i KNEW there was something going on!
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Rank: Martian Estate Agent
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Yeah, most are people who can't figure out how to post or just can't get there e-mail working. Stieve ever thought of doing some spring cleaning?
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the people signing up to swoj areb't bots, bots are usually obvious! As Rogeman said, thet tend to start posting crap on the forum, also, as I have address validation enabled, they tend not to bother.
Obviously people want to sign up but not post, I've no problem with that (instead of not signing up at all), maybe they'll feel like it later. the ratio of posting members against non-posting members is not too bad anyway for a public forum
Will do some cleaning some time, but not just now.
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man those people annoy the **** out of me! well whatever. i wish they wouldn't do that though.
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I think that user Kathryn8448 is a bot, they seem to be posting weird crap such as
I used to to deal with "wanting" back in the day, I can share my experience with you, if you want. and
It's all about the "picked". Can you tell me the meaning of "order" and "redition" in german please? I couln't translte it online... Is there any good websites that sell good splash??? I have found a couple but i want to find the best before i buy any of them.I think that last one would have thrown me off a bit, but when you read were they got splash from all is revealed. Swoj got Bot LOL. Stevie thats what i call ironic lol.
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