not long now until Revolutions hits the screens!!

Can't wait

mmmm different rating system isnt it.....

Ok. The Matrix was BRILLIANT.

The Matrix Reloaded wasn't. I honestly thought Reloaded was quite poor. They seemed to take a lot of the good points of the original, get rid of them, add in some not good things, and then pump up the fancy CG.

In Reloaded why did Neo et al. try so hard NOT to kill anyone when in the matrix? That is something that really got me.

I liked the ending of Reloaded, it has left me anxious to see the third one!

I agree with Degeneration that they did lose some of the good points of the first one, though I don't remember them trying NOT to kill anyone (as far as I remember, civilians didn't really get in the way much at all)

Swoj, the bits I'm talking about where they don't kill anyone, where if it was the original Matrix they would have are:

The stairway fight scene where it is Neo against that French dude's guys. At one point Neo gets a Sai and could have stabbed and killed the guy with it, instead he uses it to pin him against the wall to take him out of the fight for a short while. Most of the moves he did in that fight were moves just to hurt and slow down the other people, and it seemed like he only killed them as a last resort. He had plenty of opportunities to kill them with the weapons he was using, but didn't.

In the scenes with the people from one of the ships going into that place where Trinity ends up going, they just fight and knock out the guards. In the original they go in armed to the teeth and kill people in their way. This time, it was all fighting, and knocking them out... suddenly guns weren't in fashion it seems.

Might have something to do with Matrix being more high profile this time. With the game Enter The Matrix there was a lot of problems with the fact that most of the people you kill in the game are police! High profile films have a problem getting away with that. It does suck that that kind of pressure would affect the film.

I just saw the trailer for Revolutions tonight (I saw it online ages ago, but seeing it on the big screen is still good ) and it's looking like there will be a lot of gun action which looks more like the first film than the second.

I rememeber the bit you are talking about now in the mansion (or chateux), I see your point, though (just for the sack of arguing) the movie would not be much fun if Neo just killed them all in 6 seconds. We'd be impressed, but not entertained!

Granted if Neo did kill them in 6 seconds or so, it wouldn't be as entertaining, but a way around that would be similar to the lobby scene in the original, just throw in more drone guys to fight. The people he fought in the stairway scene had no other purpose in the story than being the french dude's guards type thing, so they could have just had a lot more of them.

I'll definitely be going to see Revolutions, and I'll probably like it more as my expectations are going to be quite low, and given that I'm expecting it to be more style over content (unlike the original which had style and content), I doubt this time it'll be different from my expectations.

The original Matrix is one of my many favourite films. So there is no chance of me hating it. Revolutions, upon repeat viewings I'll probably think is ok, but it could and should have been so much better, and much less pretentious. The dance scene? What the hell was it all about? And the cake that made the woman orgasm? Hmmm.

well, I call it a highway...

I just hope in Revolutions that Collin Chou (or Ngai Sing, or whatever he wants to be known as!) has a bigger part and does more fighting. He's the Oracle's bodyguard. He's also a proper trained martial artist, so seeing him in more fights would be good as he won't just have learned the moves for the film, and would be able to do more complex choreographed things.