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I know its not out yet, but I have it on beta and have been using it for a few days now. It seems a little bit better than service pack1. But I would say they have made some mistakes:
Fire Wall
Security systems
Internet explorer dealing with Flash files!
Microsoft have decided to build in a Fire wall, which will make hackers lives even easier!!!! Its not too good, and sets itself as you default one. It keeps warning you that you don't have a virus scanner (seems to only support Norton).
Anyone else got it yet? Any comments or questions regarding it?
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i have it its a load of crap, personally i hate xp i prefer to use the laytist version of linux, its much more realiable and flexable
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So Jamie, tell me the latest version of Linux then. I do have duel boot hard drive and have Lindows on it, but haven't really started using it much.
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Not got SP2 yet, sounds promising though, however most of the big changes are low level and are not totally visible.
With regard to the firewall, as far as I am aware, changes there are small but significant, such as the firewall service started before the TCP/IP system, and then stopping after the TCP/IP system stops.
I don't think you're comments about the firewall are fair, while there might be better firewall software available, it is better to have that, than for users to be online without one!
The security center part sounds like the most noticable change that users will see, once they get support for other anti-virus software it will be brilliant, maybe not so much for the user but for everyone else in their address book, who will hopefully not receiving dozens of virus infected emails if the person keeps themselves protected! While somethings like that may be a bit of annoyance for people who have a some technical knowledge, I would rather have them there than receive the 60 or 70 virus emails that arrive in my work mailbox on a daily basis. It has to be as hard as possible for even the most ignorant user to become infected with a virus or be hacked.
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Yes very true, there was a fire wall before. But this one actually asks you questions! example being 'Would you like Msn Messenger to acess the internet'. Good for people who don't have a firewall, but why did they not put it in straight away? Surley Microsoft knew broadband was becoming huge and more and more people would spend longer on the net.
They are heading in the right diection, but they need to stop monopolising the industry!
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Got to be said, Linux has some nice features but Windows has come on leaps and bounds in recent years and XP is actually a good operating system (in my opinion of course  ). For all the benefits that Linux had over Windows years ago, many of them are redundant now as Windows has gained so much ground. I've not seen anything in Linux yet that would make me use that instead of Windows.
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Originally posted by bigbrennan
Yes very true, there was a fire wall before. But this one actually asks you questions! example being 'Would you like Msn Messenger to acess the internet'. Good for people who don't have a firewall, but why did they not put it in straight away? Surley Microsoft knew broadband was becoming huge and more and more people would spend longer on the net.
Maybe they did? but it was only last year that Microsoft made their policy change to put security issues before new features. XP2 is where we are starting to see the benefits of their change in policy. When it came to marketing (example times frames) 1 month to develop a firewall; marketing tells with world that XP is the most secure, comes with firewall, etc 6 months to develop a firewall, add all the bells and whistles that make it versatile, useful, etc; marketing tells with world that XP is the most secure, comes with firewall, etc Under MS old policy of new features being priority, which option would they pick? We know they went for option one, however now they are starting at using option two for features. quote:
Originally posted by bigbrennan
They are heading in the right diection, but they need to stop monopolising the industry!
I can see that going down well. picture the scene at the Microsoft AGM "OK, we have this great idea. This year we're going to give up market share and drop profits" 
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Lol true swoj, but Microsoft fail. and to be honest I think they will have serious problems with the next 5 years.
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Originally posted by bigbrennan
So Jamie, tell me the latest version of Linux then. I do have duel boot hard drive and have Lindows on it, but haven't really started using it much.
well its not called linux anymore they changed the name to fedora core, so the laytist version is fedora core 1, i prefer it to XP cause you can rip any cd copy protection or not and also you can change EVERYTHING on the desk top!! even the opacity of the task bar! also it never crashes and it is secrure enough to have to have to have any anti-virus software installed. also you can get some really kool games for it of the internet. plus did you no that there is a version of linux that runs on a PS2 and they are making one that will run on an I-pod!!
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~I have lindows, which is the latest version of linux. It is designed for the visual user (like windows) giving it a mmore user friendly approach. Haven't used it much.
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havnt hers of that, oh year i forgot linux is in two halves knome and KDE so i probably have the knome version and you have the KDE verssion, or the other way round!
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Not sure, but Lindows is the most commercial version. and I really think if they advertise well, it could give microsoft a run for its money, if they get backing from companies.
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yeah thats true, have you got tux racer?? oh just found out i have lindows installed ass well!
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try using fedora core for server redhat for everyday use.
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why? Windows XP is by far the best OS for daily use.
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This is why Longhorn is going to be sweet. Till then, I just switch between Unix and XP (Since I run Linux on my mid-end computer and Xp on my high speed one and just switch monitors :p) depending on what I want.
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Yes but saying Longhorn will be good is wrong. XP is best out, but we know how good microsoft are at messing somthing up *cough* .NET *cough*
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xp the best at the moment, but spare a thought for the people running servers. Are you going to pay £300 for microsoft server2003 or zilch for linux which is , and this has been tested, morre secure.
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Linux is not necessarly more secure. Higher %age of Linux servers are secure, however that is because the average tech knowledge required to get a Linux server operational and working is high than required for a Windows server. this usually brings with it better understanding of security issues.
However, 2003 server is vastly more secure than any previous Windows (out of the box anyway, not really tested in great depth yet)
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steviepunk for once I agree. The normal Fred Blogs if they wanted to make a server they would turn straight to windows.
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